The Wagner Journal
The Wagner Journal

Boulder Creative Collection: Danielle DeRoberts

Danielle DeRoberts Originally from N.Y. and San Francisco, CA, Danielle DeRoberts (onerary) is a full time artist and collaborator (painting/drawing, textiles, mural art, graphic design + art installation). Danielle’s unique...

View Article

Six Week Ski Prep Program

6-Week Ski Fitness Program By Jake Hutchinson Jake has spent more than 25 years working as an avalanche professional. He is currently a lead instructor for the American Avalanche Institute,...

View Article

Next Level Skiing Podcast: Evan Reece – It’s Rare to Find a Place That Isn’t Worth Going to at Least Once

Evan Reece: It’s Rare to Find a Place That Isn’t Worth Going to at Least Once Season 2, Episode 2 On today’s episode, we have Evan Reece. Evan co-founded Liftopia in...

View Article

Why Buy Custom Skis?

Have More Fun In any sport, when your equipment is dialed it’s easier to enjoy what you are doing. That’s especially true in skiing. You won’t have fun if your...

View Article
The Wagner Tribe
Tips, Safety & Beta
Next Level
All About Your Skiing
Your Custom Ski Design

back to topics

  • Behind the Lenswhite arrow
  • Travel Storieswhite arrow
  • Traffic Artist Collectionwhite arrow
  • Boulder Creative Collectionwhite arrow
  • Backcountry Safetywhite arrow
  • Conditioning & Fitnesswhite arrow
  • Ski Tuning & Maintenancewhite arrow
  • Next Level Podcast: Season 1white arrow
  • Next Level Podcast: Season 2white arrow
  • Custom Ski Graphicswhite arrow
  • Wagner Factory Tourwhite arrow
  • Ski Buyer's Guidewhite arrow


Next Level Skiing Podcast: Tommy Moe – You Gotta Pay Your Dues

Episode 4: Tommy Moe – You Gotta Pay Your Dues


On this episode of Next Level Skiing we chat with Olympic skier Tommy Moe. He was 16 when he started chasing his heroes on snow, a pursuit that has made him one of America’s most decorated Olympic ski racers. Today, Moe works as a ski instructor and guide in Jackson Hole and is part owner of Tordrillo Mountain Lodge in Alaska. Listen in to hear about Tommy’s journey as an Olympic skier, how he improved his technique, and how skiing has evolved since his days on the US Ski Team.


Listen on:


Tordrillo Mountain Lodge Website
Tommy’s Bio
Next Level Skiing Podcast

Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. And, if you haven’t already, please review us on iTunes. That’s how we can keep this podcast rolling — mining for tips that can make you a better, stronger skier.


Topics & Times:

[01:45] In 2005, Mike Overcast and Tommy opened a heli-skiing business in Alaska.

[02:30] Tommy starting skiing at a young age in Montana, where his father was a member of the ski patrol.

[03:18] He joined the US Ski Team in 1986 at Copper Mountain.

[03:32] When he was 12, he moved to Alaska, where he attended a ski academy. His training there led to his becoming a member of the US Ski Team.

[05:20] He had the bug from an early age and pursued skiing with a fiery determination.

[06:08] Tommy went to summer camp at Mt. Hood, when Phil and Steve Mayer talked to the kids about being on the World Cup team.

[06:36] When Tommy started racing at a young age, he always had the drive to improve and keep up with others.

[07:55] You can improve simply by skiing with your friends.

[08:32] If you want to hone your skills, Tommy suggests hiring a ski instructor or attending a ski clinic.

[08:54] There are great “steep and deep” camps at Jackson Hole.

[10:15] When he was racing on the Ski Team, members would videotape everything so they could analyze their techniques.

[10:48] When Tommy was a younger skier, he was aggressive but had a loose style.

[11:18] When he started tightening up his form, he focused on improving his angulation.

[12:45] Improving his angulation was one of the best things Tommy did to better his technique.

[13:15] The construction of skis is so different now; it allows for amazing turns where you won’t “boot out”.

[15:25] Ski tech has improved so much that you can now stand on both feet and equally weight your skis.

[15:50] In this day and age, you’re doing race turns with 60% of your weight on the outside foot and 40% on the inside.

[16:05] It looks like perfect railroad tracks, which is vastly different from how it was even in the ‘80s.

[17:45] Most heli-skiers are pretty seasoned skiers, but Tommy likes it when he gets people who ask for advice.

[19:00] Tommy works as a ski guide in Jackson Hole as well. If he sees someone having a hard time, he will give them pointers that will help them attack the mountain.

[20:30] Skiing is a lot like dancing, in that everyone has their own technique.

[21:30] Tommy believes that you always want to be on the offensive when skiing.

[22:54] The Art of Skiing is a classic book that still serves as a great resource.

[24:22] Tommy’s dad used to let him skip school to ski on powder days.

[24:30] Now, Tommy is teaching his young daughters to ski.

[25:04] His kids are just as enthusiastic about skiing as their parents (Tommy’s wife was also an Olympic skier).

[27:30] Tommy and Jason discuss the quick feet of various Olympic skiers and how techniques have changed over the years.

[28:45] Tommy thanks everyone who has a passion for the sport and encourages enthusiasts to get out there and keep working on their skills.


Listen to Other Episodes:

Intro – Next Level Skiing Podcast

  1. Angel Collinson – You Got This
  2. Jake Hutchinson – You Can’t Fake It Anymore
  3. Chris Steiner – Powderball
  4. Tommy Moe – You Gotta Pay Your Dues
  5. Jim Lindsay – Building From the Feet Up
  6. Dr. Tom Hackett – Get Something Out of Every Day
  7. Klaus Obermeyer – It’s Easier to Ski Than It Is to Walk
  8. Chris Davenport – Speaking the Language of the Mountains

Related Articles

Next Level Skiing Podcast Intro

View More

Next Level Skiing Podcast: Angel Collinson – You Got This

View More

Next Level Skiing Podcast: Jake Hutchinson – You Can’t Fake It Anymore

View More